Permatex vs Loctite: Threadlockers & Sealants
I’ve seen so many people get confused about Permatex and Loctite, that I finally decided to do a comprehensive post on these two.
Today we’ll be looking at both brands’ threadlockers and thread sealants. Common identical products here are:
- Loctite 565 vs Permatex 56521 for thread sealants
- Loctite 242 vs Permatex 24200 for threadlockers (medium strength)
- Loctite 515 (or 518) vs Permatex 5183 for anaerobic flange sealants
Did you notice something in their numbers? Yep, they’re made like this for easier cross-reference.
Let’s take a look at the differences between them – if any at all in some cases 🙂
A little trivia: Loctite bought Permatex in 1972, and around 2000 they sold them back. Currently, Permatex’s owner is Illinois Tool Works – the same company that owns Hobart and Miller welders, Tapcon fasteners and many more.
Permatex vs Loctite:
The threadlocker products from both brands are almost the same. By ‘almost’ I mean that with general use, you won’t notice any significant difference.
There are, however, two small details.
First, Permatex has gel twist type threadlockers like the 24010.
It’s essentially the same product like the Permatex 24200 and Loctite 242. However, it introduces two improvements:
Supports bigger fasteners: 1/4″ to 1″ instead of the usual 1/4″ to 3/4″.
The gel is easier to apply – especially with vertical applications.
Second, Permatex is a bit slower in terms of fixture time. It will set in at around the 20-minute mark while Loctite 242 does the same after 15 minutes. Both fully cure after 24 hours.
Note: If you want a medium strength threadlocker and don’t care about gels, check out Loctite 243. It’s an improved version of both 242 and 24200 – primerless and oil resistant.
Keeps fasteners even tighter, and doesn’t require you to do a thorough cleaning on the threads beforehand.
Best medium strength threadlocker. Oil resistant and holds things tighter. Improvement over 242 and Permatex 24200.
But really, there isn’t much difference between the whole lineup of Permatex or Loctite threadlockers. They even share the same color scheme for the strength/hold of their threadlockers:
Purple for low strength
Blue for medium strength
Red for high (permanent) strength
The blue threadlockers will be OK for 90% of your projects. If you need more info on Loctite’s products, I’ve compared their threadlockers already.
You can check the Permatex 24200 and read what people say about it. Still, as I said, I recommend Loctite 243 over any other medium strength product.
Permatex 565221 vs Loctite 565
Two favorites of plumbers and mechanics – but not only. You’d need these two for a variety of pipe/fitting sealing jobs from waste treatment, to hydraulic lines, to brake fittings, air conditioners…
I’ll be frank: they’re literally the same thing.
Both work with any NPT (National Pipe Thread) that’s up to 2″ – that’s 5cm for those using the metric system.
Also, both withstand pressure of up to 10,000 psi.
Surprise, surprise – both of them also have a temperature range of -65°F to 300°F.
I mean, if you have any specific brand preference, go ahead and buy whichever you feel better about. Even the tubes have the same design.
The important thing is that you won’t have any leakages and will benefit from your benefits not rusting/corroding after you use either of them.
Loctite's most widely used thread sealant. Withstands pressure, temperature and prevents leaks.
Absolutely the same as Loctite's rival product. I guess get it if you prefer blue over red letters, as it's as powerful and useful.
Loctite 518 vs Permatex 5183 gasket makers:
OK, so this time we have a little more variety that deserves mentioning. I had to dig in Henkel’s official site to find it
A small difference between this Loctite and the 5183 counterpart is the gap support:
Loctite 518 fills gaps up to 0.25mm (0.01”) while Permatex 5183 goes wider with gap support of up to 0.38mm (0.015”).
Both of these are anaerobic gasket makers/flange sealants. You want to use them with metal parts and machinery. Aluminum, iron, steel – anytime you need a quick repair you can use either of these.
Probably you’ve noticed that Loctite 518 is very hard to find – both in physical stores and online…
A more accessible substitute is Loctite 515. It works the same for most situations, with two caveats.
First, it’s subpar for aluminum flanges. Second, it sets faster so it might cure quicker than the other two with more active metals like brass.
Fills bigger gaps which can be important in some cases. Otherwise has the same function and properties as Loctite 515/518.
Cross-reference table & definitions
I won’t lie – much as I like using both brands’ products, all the classification going on can turn anyone’s head spinning. Why would I be writing this article otherwise, right?
If you want a somewhat complete Permatex vs Loctite cross reference table, one already exists. You can check it on Permatex’s official site.
Some people don’t make a difference between threadlockers and thread sealants. As I’ve compared Loctite and Permatex in both of these uses, let’s bring up some short definitions.
Threadlockers: These are adhesives which you apply on bolts/fasteners/screws so they stay tight. In addition, both brands’ threadlockers help against corrosion due to their protective formula.
Thread sealants: Here you seal two connectors. As I mentioned, these are generally pipes – from plumbing, to air conditioning or even projects dealing with anything automotive.
With gasket makers, I recommend you to refer to Permatex’s guide on what mistakes to not make when using them. The article can be found here and is a must-read.
Curious about standard glue or epoxies? I’ve written a Loctite vs Gorilla Glue comparison – check it out 🙂